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We have succeed
numerous times, the last five years, to facilitate small Post Production
house's that where based even on the other side of the planet and up until
today, had just the ability to do editing and graphics, to include successfully
in their range of capabilities, with minimal investment, the option to deliver
truly high end Digital Intermediate services, in a level that enable them to
compete even with the big Hollywood DI houses.
In the least
complicated installation, we need from our Partner to have, a room that can be
totally dark, a MacPro with Apple Color or DaVinci, a control surface, a spectrophotometer
and a very good monitor or projector as a main display device. The total cost of
all doesn’t pass the 20k euro’s mark. Alternatively we can work with all other
systems that are available, like Iridas, Assimilate, DaVinci etc.
As a next step we
offer a special software toolset, plus our consulting services thru Skype.
Slowly, during a period of two to four months, we transfer all our Know How on
color management plus the basics of color correction to our partner. When we
feel that we getting to the point that all are ready, we film record 1min
test's and we try it, at least three times, until we get it right.
When we succeed
and the filmout looks exactly as it looks on Partner monitor, then immediately our
Partner is accredited as a WYSIWYG DI House and gets clients either form us or
from his local market.
Additionally
partners can bypass the real filmout step and be a "Digital Only" partner and
get benefit from the LOG film workflow by leveraging the DCP quality to the Film
level.
We, then act, as
a co-pilot, working closely and cooperate with our new Partner to solve all his
potential problems, to even other things not absolutely related to filmouts,
like color management of graphics workstations, or assisting during production in
color related problems of his/our clients. Our profit comes only from the
filmouts that we do for him and are charged directly to the production that
orders them. Our partner profits from his work and we from ours.
Our work is
designed to allow small Post Production facilities to have access to things that
was the privilege of big players up until today. Our experience in color
management for film is at the disposal of the creative people around the world.
The revolution has started.
Below are FAQ for a Post
Facility or a Production house that wants to became a partner.
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FAQ for Post
Production Facilities
Q. We are a post
facility and we want to cooperate with you guys, what are the ground rules?
A. We don’t
referring to producers, non partners; so you have to become a partner to get
clients from us. To do that you have to successfully pass the consulting /
accreditation phase; we also have limits in to getting new partners accredited
when we already have an active partner in an area with population less than
1mil, the protection period is for only two years or if the partner seize
operation. So it’s better to ask us if you want to start working in an area that
there is already another partner.
Q. We are a
production house and we typically do in house the editing in our Mac’s, since
technically we aren’t a post facility… can we get accredited as a partner?
A. Yes you can,
only with one limitation, if there is another active partner in the area we will
not allow to work as a competitor to the other partner before his two years
period passed. So it’s no problem if it’s for house projects or no problem at
all if there isn’t another partner in your area or if your area has more than
1mil inhabitants.
Q.
Unfortunately, we don’t speak English… can we still collaborate?
A. We are very
sorry, but we can’t communicate if you don’t speak English. The know how
transfer process includes long Skype conference calls in order to educate and
solve your problems, so a lack of fluent English speaking can rise a serious
communication barrier.
Q. We want to
print a film next week… can we finish the process in one week?
A. Unfortunately
the process is very time consuming and not very easy to happen in a week. It
usually takes two to four months until all are ready. If there is a rush project
you can take one of the other packages (for Cinematographers or Students) that
having a faster turn around time. Off coarse there aren’t on the same level in
terms of accuracy but they offer a good alternative.
Q. What we have
to pay to start the accreditation and start the know how transfer process?
A. The consulting
fee is 1200 euro’s and its one off; it includes all the software needed to do
the calibration, display profiling and off coarse three 1 minute film out tests.
To order now click here.
Q. We don't want
to do real filmouts right now but instead we want to use LUT's and Color
Management do grade in LOG for DCP, so can we apply as digital only partners?
A. Yes certainly,
for consulting fee of 800 euro's there is the a special
category in the Order Now page for Digital Only DI Post Houses. To order now
click here.
Q. Do we need
extra hardware to get it done?
A. Yes certainly
a spectrophotometer probe and if your display device fail to comply another
display device. Don’t thing tenths of thousands of euro’s… we have solutions
that don’t pass even the 5K mark…
Q. We do have a
color grading system, not Apple Color, can we work together?
A. Yes we can, we
do cooperate with almost all systems available. We can’t though warrantee that
we will be able to assist in system related problems or tips and tricks since
our knowledge as users limits in Apple Color.
Q. What Monitor
or Projector we have to get in order to get the job done?
A. For monitors connected with
DisplayPort an Apple Cinema 27" LED would be good enough, for HDMI connected
monitors we working with HP DreamColor and with a specific LG
monitor, the LG
W2420R and lastly for projectors the latest JVC's are the best options. A monitor that
is a real diamond if you find it and its on a good performing shape is the
famous Sony FW900, this monitor achieves the best results but is very rare to
find and needs expensive converter to work with Display Ports or HDMI.
Q. What are the
supported LUT's that you can deliver?
A. We can deliver
a wide range:
| Academy / ASC |
Adobe
Photoshop 1D |
AJA Kona
1D |
Apple
Color |
Apple
FinalTouch v1.0.8 and older |
Apple
FinalTouch v1.0.9 and newer |
Apple
Shake 1D |
Arri |
Assimilate Scratch |
Autodesk
Fire |
Autodesk
Flame |
Autodesk
Flint |
Autodesk
Inferno |
Autodesk
Lustre |
Autodesk
Smoke |
Autodesk
Toxik |
Barco
D-Cine |
Blackmagic Decklink 1D |
Blackmagic HDLink Pro |
Chrome
Imaging |
Cine-tal
Cinemage |
Cyborg |
DaVinci
Resolve |
Digital
Ordnance Frame Thrower |
Digital
Vision Nucoda v1 |
Digital
Vision Nucoda v2 |
DVS
Clipster |
Grass
Valley LUTher |
Iridas |
IT |
Pixel
Farm |
Quantel
1D |
Quantel
3D |
Rip |
RSR
cineSpace 1D |
RSR
cineSpace 3D |
SGO
Mistika |
SideFX
Houdini |
TCube |
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Q. We also have
a monitor that we trust, can we work with that?
A. Off coarse you
can, the only problem that we going to face is if the monitor doesn’t perform.
Then we will need something that will perform since the whole process relies on
that.
Q. The client
will have to pay something to Motion FX that is related to color grading?
A. No, you deal
with your client and we don’t get anything from him except of the film recording
cost. The way you will charge your client has nothing to do with us. The color
grading / conform is your job and the film recording ours. The production pays
us, directly, for the film recording process only.
Q. If we start a
movie and we need confidence film out tests is there any cost involved?
A. On every movie
that we print we give three 1 minute tests for free. The only cost that the
client has to pay is the courier transport.
Q.
What are the differences between what you do and Magic
Bullet LUT Buddy free?
A.
Let’s explain the different types of LUT’s existing to
understand:
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Viewing
LUT’s, these are LUT’s that can be created from special software like
CineSpace with the aim to calibrate accurately your display devices to
certain targets like Filmout Stocks, DCP, REC709 etc. These are our Generic
LUT's.
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Looks LUT’s,
these are LUT’s to take an A image “original” that you will alter it (color
correct it) to an image B “new image” and because you want to transfer that
Look to other applications you will need to create a Look LUT which when it
will be applied to images it will convert them from Look A to the Look B.
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Conversion
LUT’s, these LUT’s are designed to take a given color space like a given
Film Stock or Cineon Log to REC709 or DCP, these LUT’s can be applied in the
video output and used to color grade a Log sourced image to REC709. You can
find this type of LUT's in our Gneric's.
The first is
needed to bring your viewing environment to an accurate state in order to have
the confidence of what you see is also visible to your clients and to the world.
This is a difficult and very expensive task to achieve, it needs special
software that costs more than 1500$ and up, plus probe and monitor that can
perform. Have in mind the package needed isn’t the typical Desktop Publishing
monitor icc calibrators but rather the cinema counterparts that supporting 3D
LUT’s. This can be covered along with the third in the most cost effective way
by using our consulting services. Alternatively you can use our Generic LUT’s
that are used with specific setups to get a similar result.
The second is what the Magic Bullet free plug-in is doing…
So the bottom line is that you either need a correct conversion LUT to work with
Log and i.e. with the new Technicolor style like the REC709 to Cineon 6500K (HD)
assuming that you use an averagely calibrated HD monitor or if you want a
professionally accuracy you have to use the professional tools to calibrate and
the appropriate monitors.
Q. Ok you do different thinks, but Technicolor provides a
LUT with the package what is the difference?
A. The difference is that the LUT’s included on the package
are just simple 1D curves in 8bits and we provide regular
high precision 3D LUT with 12 or more bits in depth that
allow you to take advantage of the internal Floating point
color engines of Apple Color or DaVinci i.e. in a way that
will result in much more rich image and more flexible. As an
example the Technicolor LUT is 4k bytes and a DaVinci 3D LUT
for Cineon Log 6500K (HD) is 951k bytes.
Q.
Can After Effects work with 3D LUT’s?
A.
As for After Effects the most current version CS5 (10.0.1)
supports the Autodesk formats of *.3dl, which we can also
provide as generic or conversion.
Q.
Why the Log is so better than linear in small cameras like
canon 7D or 5D?
A.
Let’s assume that we want to capture an 8 stops image from a
sensor that has 12 bits internal processing that’s 4096
steps of light intensity to an 8bit compressed H264 file
that’s 256 steps.
In “linear” the top brightest stop n. 8 will consume 128
steps, the stop n. 7 will consume the next 64 steps and the
stop n. 6 will consume the next 32 steps. The top 3
brightest stops of an image when is being described in
linear will result to “consume” the 87,5% of the available
bits in a file, leaving the lower 5 stops of the
mid-tones/shadows to be described by just 32 bits…!!!
On Log we allocate 10 stops in equivalent segments like 25
bits for each stop. That results to a secondary data
compression of an applied curve, which needs to be
decompressed with the use of an appropriate 3D LUT in order
to counteract accurately also the saturation of the
converted image. By doing that we effectively recreate
information that wasn’t visible in the original file but was
there in the original image the sensor was capturing.
So the difference between Linear and Log is night and day.
Q. Ok, let’s
assume that we going forward what is the expected accuracy?
A. The accuracy
that we aim is +/- 1 printer light. It’s a difference almost in the accuracy
limits of the instruments that measuring it. A difference, very hard to be
noticed from the inexperienced eye.
Q. Is it
obligatory to do our copies in Kodak Cinelabs Greece?
A. No its
optional, when all is finished correctly and you have on hands a good zero copy
then all god labs would be able to reproduce the results. If you decide to do
the prints in Kodak Cinelabs Greece, you will benefit from the great stability
and repeatability of an ImageCare accredited Lab. Of coarse there are other
ImageCare labs around the world check out the list: ImageCare Labs List
Q. We want to
deliver DCP, internet, and REC709 HD tapes to our clients do you offer
conversion LUT’s?
A. Off coarse we
do, its part of our obligations towards to our Partners. We deliver conversion
LUT’s for sRGB (internet), XYZ (DCP), REC709 (HD delivery).
Q. Can we film
record 4K material?
A. Yes off
course, with our Lasergraphics producer we can handle it. Although our ArriLaser
can’t, because it’s just HD/2K.
Q. Can you
handle sound?
A. Yes we can
Dolby SR (analogue 5+1), Dolby digital and DTS. Only the rights to Dolby must be
paid first so we do accept already encoded material. It can be uploaded to our
secure FTP for optical print.
Q What is the
typical job turn around?
A. From receiving
the disk with the film to be print, it’s about two to three weeks time until the
client will have a big smile in his face…
Q. Do you have a
fast number on film recording pricing?
A. Due to
competition reasons we can’t disclose pricing in public. Please get in touch
with us and all will be available for your evaluation. Alternatively select the
request for quotation from the side menu.
Q. What we have
to do to start?
A. Just sent us
an email, with your name, company and telephone or use the contact form and we
will get back to you. Or submit an order by clicking in
the side menu the Order Now and selecting the appropriate package.
Q. Can you scan
films?
A. Yes we can, we
have access to a Northlight II 4K scanner we can also offer 2K scans at lower
cost, but due to the logistic cost involved to transport the film rolls by
airfreight its better to seek for a local lab to do that. On the other hand we
can offer this service and judge by your self since our pricing is very
aggressive.
Q. Can you also
do Telecine and negative processing?
A. Yes we do
offer Telecine services thru our partner Kodak Cinelabs Greece. We will get you
in touch.
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